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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1449
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- Info-Hams Digest Sat, 11 Dec 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1449
-
- Today's Topics:
- ** New England Ham - Electronic Fleamarket Dates ** 1 Dec Update
- GB2ATG (December 1993)
- Legal Question about 97.403
- NETMGR a tool for R.O.S.E.
- R/C Aircraft
- VK2SG RTTY DX Notes, 10 December
-
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-
- Date: 7 Dec 1993 04:41:27 GMT
- From: w1gsl@athena.mit.edu
- Subject: ** New England Ham - Electronic Fleamarket Dates ** 1 Dec Update
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- New England Area Ham - Electronic Flea Market *** DATES *** 1993 P 1 of 2
- All events are Ham Radio/ Electronic related except ~_____~
- *******************************************************************************
- 1993 Contact Source
- *******************************************************************************
- 5 Dec Fall River MA BCRA @Bank St Ar $2@9 $5/15@8 Tom WA1LBK 508 674 4163
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- 1994 Contact Source
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- 15 Jan Marathon NY SkylineARC @ Civic C 7A $2B $5Sell
-
- 16 Jan Mattapoisett MA @KoC B$1 S$10 Ken 508 993 3993 F
-
- 16 Jan Yonkers NY Metro70 @Lincoln HS $15@7 $5@9 Otto WB2SLQ 914 969 1053 F
-
- 22 Jan Nashua NH NE Antique RC $5@9 $1@10 @ Res Ctr Church Ray 508 865 1290 +
-
- 12 Feb Goshen NY OrangeCoARC James WB2WLN 914 564 2707 A+
-
- 19 Feb Marlborough MA Algonquin ARC @MS $2@10 $12@8 Ann KA1PON 508 481 4988 F
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- 20 Feb Mattapoisett MA @KoC B$1 S$10 Ken 508 993 3993 F
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- 26 Feb Milton VT @HS 8AM Mitch 802 879 6589
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- 27 Feb Westford MA Boston Antique RC John 508 371 0512 T
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- 27 Feb New Hyde Park NY LIMARC @Nassau PAL s@7 b$6@9 Neil WE2V 516 462 5549 +
-
- 5 March Lewiston ME AARC @Multi P CTR $3@8 $5/T@7:30 Sal W1CUW 207 998 2853 F+
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- 6 March Northampton MA Mt Tom ARA @Smith VoTech Jim K1MEA 413 527 3199 T
-
- 20 March Mattapoisett MA @KoC B$1 S$10 Ken 508 993 3993 F
-
- 20 March Bristol CT ICRC @Eastern HS Al W1KGD +
-
- 26-27 March Baltimore MD Hamboree @Timonium 8A- $5 Sell $5/10+ 800 HAM FEST +
-
- 10 April Framingham MA @ HS $14@8 $5@9 $2@10 Barry WN1N 508 877 4947 F
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- 10 April Southington CT SARA @HS? N1GCV 203 621 6191 D+
-
- 17 April Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F
- buy $2@9A sellers $10/sp@7A $8in adv $35/sp "Season Pass"
- 3rd Sunday Each Month April thru October
-
- 23 April Nashua NH NE Antique RC $5@9 $1@10 @Res Ctr Church Ray 508 865 1290 +
-
- 23,24 April Waltham MA Photographica 10-5 $5 ~photo~ (bef 9PM) 617 965 0807 F
-
- 29 30 April 1 May Dayton OH F
-
- 6,7 May Rochester NH Hoss Traders @FG ex13 off rt 16 $5 noon fri Joe K1RQG
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- LAST UPDATE 12-1-93 de W1GSL P 1 of 2
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- US Mail W1GSL POB 82 MIT Br Cambridge MA 02139
- SASE for updated copy as issued.
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- P 2 of 2
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- 1994 Contact Source
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- 15 May Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F
- buy $2@9A sellers $10/sp@7A $8in adv $35/sp "Season Pass"
- 3rd Sunday Each Month April thru October
-
- 20,22 May Rochester NY NYS ARRL Conv Harold K2HC 716 424 7184 A+
-
- 21 May Forestdale RI RIFMRS @VFW 8A Rick K1KYI 401 725 7507
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- 30 May Whitman MA WARC @Rt 14+18 sell@$10/sp (monday) 617 447 1277 F
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- 5 June Newington CT @HS Flea + ARRL HQ OH Al N1JWF 203 747 1925 T
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- 19 June Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F
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- 17 July Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F
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- 23 July Nashua NH NE Antique RC $5@9 $1@10 @ Res Ctr Church Ray 508 865 1290 +
-
- 7 Aug Wellesley MA WARS @Babson Trim Hall Barbara N1ICQ 617 329 2628
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- 13 Aug Charlotte VT @Old Lantern CG 8A- $5 su 3P Fri Dave N1ERD 802 893 7660 T
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- 21 Aug Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F
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- 27 Aug Gardner MA MARC @Drive-in $5@6 $2@8 Bill WJ1Y 508 939 2643 T
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- 10 Sept Berlin VT CVTARC Robert McCorkle 802 433 6172 A+
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- 17 Sept Forestdale RI RIFMRS @VFW 8A Rick K1KYI 401 725 7507
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- 18 Sept Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F
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- 25 Sept Framingham MA @ HS $14@8 $5@9 $2@10 Barry WN1N 508 877 4947 F
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- 1,2 Oct Boxboro MA NE Div Conv. Gene W1VRK 617 631 7388 A
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- 8,9 Oct Durham CT Nutmeg @FG Opens 4PM sat $5-25 Jim N1IZF 203 349 3353 F
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- 16 Oct Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F
-
- 22,23 Oct Waltham MA Photographica 10-5 $5 ~photo~ (bef 9PM) 617 965 0807 T
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- 29 Oct Nashua NH NE Antique RC $5@9 $1@10 @ Res Ctr Church Ray 508 865 1290 +
-
- 13 Nov Branford CT SCARA @intrm sch Brad WA1TAS 203 265 9983 T+
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- LAST UPDATE 12-1-93 de W1GSL P 2 of 2
- Source F= Flyer J= John Roberts list A= ARRL list WR NV 73 CQ QST = Mags
- T= tentative early info D= W1DL + = new info this month
- This list has been compiled from many sources. While we believe the info to
- be accurate the author can not be responsible for changes or errors.
- Check with the sponsoring organizations for more details. This list will be
- posted monthly to USENET. Mailed copies are sent when additions are made.
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- SASE for updated copy as issued.
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- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 04:21:00 -0700
- From: pacbell.com!sgiblab!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!news.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!adec23!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: GB2ATG (December 1993)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- RYRYRY - GB2ATG - RYRYRYRYRY - BARTG - RYRYRYRYRY - GB2ATG - RYRYRY
- This is the - British Amateur Radio Teledata Group - News Broadcast Service
- for all Amateurs and Short Wave Listeners interested in RTTY Amtor, Pactor and
- Packet Radio.
-
- This news is broadcast during the first full week commencing Monday each
- month, to the following schedule..
-
- Evening transmissions at 1930 GMT. on 3.584 MHz. Mark. +/- for QRM.
- RTTY on Monday-AFSK, Wednesday-AFSK, Friday-FSK and Saturday-AFSK.
- Amtor-FEC on Tuesday and Thursday.
- Morning transmission at 1000 GMT. on 7.041 MHz. Mark. +/- for QRM.
- RTTY on Sunday-AFSK.
-
- >From January 1994 the broadcast schedule will be adjusted to provide:
- RTTY on Monday-AFSK, Wednesday-AFSK, Friday-FSK and Sunday-AFSK.
- Amtor-FEC on Thursday and Saturday.
- Pactor-FEC on Tuesday.
-
- An edited version of this bulletin is available on the Packet network as a
- BARTG @ GBR. file thanks to: Andy (G3ZYP) @ GB7BBS.#28.GBR.EU.
- It is also posted on the "INTERNET" system via the INFO-HAMS list on UCSD.EDU.
- thanks to Iain (G6ARO) who is available on the "JANET" network as
- Iain @UK.AC.HUMBER.
-
- News for December 1993. Bulletin No. 012. (all times are GMT).
-
- BARTG information.
- AGM.
- A well attended meeting again at this venue. The retiring chairman John Barber
- (G4SKA) reported on good progress during his term and plans for future progress
- to enhance the status of the group abroad. The treasurers report disclosed a
- very sound financial position due to the endeavours of a hard working committee
- for which the meeting declared unanimous appreciation. The task of updating
- Beginners Guides for most data modes is well advanced following the publication
- of the "BARTG Guide to Packet" produced by Ian Wade (G3NRW). As contest
- manager, John Barber announced BARTG plans for the first world wide HF
- Amtor/Pactor contest early in July 1994 which will undoubtedly further the
- status of BARTG as the leading data group worldwide. The existing committee
- were elected unopposed for a further term with the addition of Andy Matheson
- (G3ZYP). The election of a chairman was deferred to the first meeting of the
- new committee. Membership subscription is to remain at current levels for the
- coming year due entirely to the success of the revenue income achieved by the
- individual efforts of the committee serving the membership during the last 2
- years. Membership must surely be the best value available for the services on
- offer. DATACOM alone is worth more.
- Ian Wilks (GW3FSW) volunteered his services to co-ordinate BARTG attendance at
- rallies. He will welcome all offers from members available to staff the BARTG
- stand at their local rally in 1994.
- A very successful meeting to close a very successful year.
-
- RTTY DX activity.
- 14 MHz.
- V73IO 0730, ZL1VT, V73BN and XT2BW 0800,
- PJ6CCP, FK8GS, TT8OBO, BY1QH, YI1AL and YI1AZ 0830,
- UC2LEG 0900,
- TA5C and OH0BBF 0930,
- BV7WB and VK8BE 1000.
- YI1HS, PJ2MI and HH2PK 1030,
- CU1AC 1100,
- KP2N 1130,
- 9D2UU and J28JJ 1300
- VQ9FM, 3A2LZ, YB5QZ, YL75V and YI1AZ 1400,
- CN8BX, and VP2V/K4ADK 1500
- TT8OBO, 5B4BX and 9A3PL 1530,
- YL75Z, ET3SID and 9M2FO 1600,
- CN8GI, CO6RR, CU1AC, NP2G and FR5GS 1630,
-
- 21 MHz.
- FH/DL5XU, 7Q7LA, Z21HS, TY1PS and 5N/DF8QB 1400,
- Z32JA and A61AF 1430
- HJ4SAN and V51A 1500
- EA6VS 1530,
-
- ARQ 14 MHz.
- 9H1B 0730,
-
- Pactor 14 MHz.
- A61AF 1430
- SV1BJV 1500
- Z21HJ 1630.
-
- QSL Information.
- A61AF Box 15825, Dubai, U.A.E.
- VP2V/K4ADK via AB4JI.
- V51A Box 6316, Windhoek, Namibia
- XT2BW via WB2YQH.
- V73IO via KH6IO
- 7Q7LA via G0IAS
- PJ2MI via K2PEQ.
- TT8OBO via WA4OBO
- Z32JA via YU5XTC
- FH/DL5XU via DL5XU.
- CO6RR at Box 255, Cienfuegos 55100, Cuba.
- ET3SID at Box 60229, Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.
- YI1AZ at Box 55195, Baghdad 12001, Iraq.
- YI1HS at Box 7075, Baghdad 12216, Iraq
- YL75V via YL2KL
- 9D2UU via LZ2UU.
- YL75Z at S. Hochberg, PK.22, Jelgava, LV-3000, Latvia.
-
- Contests.
-
- New address for the WAEDC contest logs:
- WAEDC Contest Committee. P.O. Box 1126, D-74370 Sersheim, Germany.
-
- Some late notice of a RTTY Sprint contest which may be of interest:
-
- The Troy Amateur radio Club (TARA) announces its second annual RTTY Sprint.
- The contest period this year will be from 2100 UTC. 11 December 1993 to 0100
- UTC. 12 December 1993. Work stations once per band. One point per QSO.
- States and DXCC countries are multipliers. Bands are 80, 40, 20, 15 and 10
- meters.
- Logs must be submitted by 17 January 1994 to:
- Bill Eddy. NY2U. C/O TARA 2204, 2nd Street, Troy, New York 12180.
-
- SARTG have their Happy New Year RTTY contest from 0800 until 1100 Saturday
- January 1. Bands 3.5 and 7 MHz. only.
- Classes are..
- A) Single operator.
- B) Multi-Operator.
- C) Short Wave Listener.
- Exchange message..
- RST + QSO serial number + name + "Happy New Year" in own language.
- Points..
- One (1) point for each QSO on each band. The same station may be contacted
- only once on each band.
- Multipliers..
- A multiplier of one (1) is given for each DXCC-country (except Scandinavia)
- and each LA - OH - OZ - SM - TF prefix number (0-9) contacted on each band.
- Final score: Sum of QSO points times sum of multipliers.
- Logs to be received by January 21 1994 containing: Band, Time GMT, Message
- sent and received, Points and Multipliers. Use a separate sheet for each band
- and enclose a summary sheet showing the scoring, class, your name and address.
- Logs from multi-operator stations must contain the calls or names of all
- operators involved. SWL's use the same rules but based on stations and messages
- copied.
- Address your logs to:
- SARTG Contest Manager. Bo Ohlsson SM4CMG. Skulsta 1258,
- S-710 41 Fellingsbro, Sweden.
- Awards to the top five stations in each group and to the winner in each
- country.
-
- On the same day the ARRL RTTY-Roundup starts at 1800 January 1 until 2400
- January 2. Operate no more that 24 hours. Two rest periods (for a combined
- total of 6 hours) must be taken in two single blocks of time, clearly marked in
- the log.
- Modes: Baudot RTTY, ASCII, Amtor and Packet (attended operation only*) (I
- would presume Pactor will also be allowed Ed.)
- All 5 HF bands 3.5 - 7 - 14 - 21 - 28 MHz.
- Classification:
- A) Single operator all band.
- 1. Less than 150 watts output. 2. 150 watts output or more.
- B) Multi-Operator single transmitter.
-
- Exchange message:
- For United States: Signal report plus state.
- For Canada: Signal report plus province.
- For DX: Signal report and serial number starting 001.
-
- Scoring:
- (A) QSO points: Count one point for each completed QSO. A station may be
- worked once on each band for QSO credit.
- (B) Multipliers: Count only once and not once per band, each US. state (except
- KH6 and KL7), each VE. province (plus VE8 and VY1) and each DXCC country.
- KH6 and KL7 count only as separate DXCC countries. The USA. or Canada do
- not count as DXCC countries.
- Logs: An entry making more than 200 total QSO's must submit duplicate check
- sheets (an alphabetical listing of stations worked). Logs should show dates,
- QSO times, call sign of station worked, complete exchange sent and received
- for each contact, and band. Postmark your entry within 30 days after the
- contest ends.
- Send to: ARRL Contest Branch, 225, Main Street, Newington, CT 06111.
-
- Notes of interest.
- The station in Sarh, Chad TT8OBO is now being operated by Al (KL7QH).
- John in Dubai, U.A.E. is QRV both RTTY and Pactor as A61AF.
- The DXCC desk announced that QSL cards from A61AF for operations prior to
- August 3 1993 are not good for DXCC credit as operations before that date were
- unauthorised. All who submitted cards prior to November 16 1993 must re-submit
- as all credits have been removed from the database. Only cards with QSO dates
- after August 3 1993 will be accepted.
- Prefix hunters will notice the calls YL75V and YL75Z being used to commemorate
- the 75th anniversary of the foundation of the Republic of Latvia (18th November
- 1918). The Latvian buro is not functioning so QSL's may be sent direct as
- above.
-
- Thanks this month to..
- G3ZYP, G3MWH, DXNS, ARRL/ARLDX.
-
- BARTG caters for all DATA interests with information-components-kits -ready
- built units and software from experts. Members receive a 120 page quarterly
- journal devoted to data modes. Beginners guides for most data modes are
- available. The group sponsors HF and VHF RTTY contests, administers its own DX
- and members award scheme and runs an annual rally.
-
- This copy of BARTG News is posted by Iain Kendall (G6ARO) who can be contacted
- via Internet e-mail at.. iain@humber.ac.uk Items for inclusion in the
- broadcast may also be mailed to this address, as well as any queries regarding
- membership or services offered by BARTG.
-
- Copy of the news bulletin as distributed by G0ARF 931130.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 6 Dec 93 07:51:00 GMT
- From: ddsw1!indep1!clifto@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Legal Question about 97.403
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <36364@ksr.com> jfw@ksr.com (John F. Woods) writes:
- > As others have pointed out,
- >local laws about ownership of unlicensed transmitters (which Part 90 probably
- ^^^^^^^^^^
- >does *not* address) may mean that even if he can legally justify the
- >transmission they will still get to keep the equipment as a souvenir of his
- >public service...
-
- The ham in question was using a LICENSED transmitter. The transmitter
- was licensed under Part 97.5(e), whether it was an IC-02AT, a type-approved
- Motorola talkie stolen from a policeman, or an AM broadcast transmitter,
- because it was operated in accordance with the FCC Rules (specifically,
- 97.403) and was a transmitting apparatus under the physical control of
- the station licensee.
- Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer, but I wouldn't mind acting as my own if I
- had to argue this before a Federal court. (Flames about the stupidity of
- _that_ directed to /dev/null.)
- --
- +------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
- | Cliff Sharp | clifto@indep1.chi.il.us OR clifto@indep1.uucp |
- | WA9PDM | Use whichever one works |
- +------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 7 Dec 1993 22:45:42 -0500
- From: kb2ear.ampr.org!not-for-mail@princeton.edu
- Subject: NETMGR a tool for R.O.S.E.
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Bill Slack NX2P asked me to post this.
-
- NETMGR is a Windows based ROSE network managment took. It
- allows the ROSE network manager or switchOP to graphically
- draw the network (or part of the network) and automatically
- generate the configuration files. In most cases no manual
- editing of the configuration files will be neccessary.
-
- If you would like a copy and don't have FTP please send me email and I
- send a copy via email. Or I'll post somewhere on USENET.
-
- What FTP sites should I post this on?
-
-
- If you would like more info about ROSE send email to
- askrat@kb2ear.ampr.org and/or get on the ROSE mailing list. To get on
- the mailing list send email to listserv@kb2ear.ampr.org with this line
- as the body:
-
- ADD rose
-
- or
-
- ADD <Your_Address> rose
-
- To post to the list send email to rose@kb2ear.ampr.org.
-
- 73,
- --
- Scott R. Weis KB2EAR
- Internet: kb2ear@kb2ear.ampr.org
- Snail Mail: 10 Palmer Rd., Kendall Park, NJ, 08824-1228
- Phone: +1 908 297 0469
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 13:45:37 GMT
- From: netcomsv!netcom.com!greg@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: R/C Aircraft
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2e2na6$njm@slinky.cs.nyu.edu> jackson@longlast.cs.nyu.edu (Steven Jackson) writes:
- >Having read the latest '73, I am interested in hearing about the feasability of
- >installing the necessary electronics to get statistical information from model
- >aircraft via packet.
-
- Ah, but first you have to build it and learn to fly it. R/C modeling is
- every bit as complex, in and of itself, as ham radio. Probably more so.
- You have to learn to walk before you can run, on this one. It sure is
- addictive though.
-
-
- >I envision one person flying the machine while another person pulls statistical
- >data from the machine. Some options would be ssb-tv and computer controlled
- >scanning on board.
-
- Why not just set up a telemetry down-link and analyze what comes in later?
- Most of the 'live' stuff isn't any more interesting than the recording,
- anyway.
-
- >Of course, you wouldn't rebroadcast the scanner audio. If the aircraft is
- >large enough, a motherboard with soundcard and scsi-2 hard drive could be
- >shoved in there and the scanner audio could be recorded to the hard drive.
-
- Conditions in R/C models are pretty adverse. They pull a lot of g-forces.
- The vibration is unbelievable. If you can avoid anything remotely delicate,
- do it. Again, I'd go with a raw telemetry link and do the recording on
- the ground, the analysis later. Also keeps the weight down.
-
- >back to base as uuencoded data? I don't think *that* would be allowed.
-
- As long as you're using plain ASCII, you're okay.
-
- >Starting with the basics, what's the largest model aircraft anyone here has
- >built or can legally be built? What about engines? I recall reading that the
- >man featured in the story converted his airplane's engine to a hacked
- >chainsaw engine to stay away from costly glow fuel.
-
- Chainsaw and snow-blower engines are fairly common. They make specially
- converted models for, um, models. Figure on about a 10-foot wingspan for
- one of these beasts, set up for lifting. Get a copy of RC-Modeler or
- Model Airplane News, and see the ad for the biggest 'Telemaster.'
-
- But... ...you might want to be a pretty good pilot before you put
- this kind of asset in the air. Also, you can easily kill yourself
- or someone else with one of these.
-
-
- >How expensive does the hobby get and how quickly? Before anyone flips out
- >about the size, Sharp recently released an integrated motherboard/isa drive
- >controller the size of a credit card.
-
-
- Funny you should mention credit card... ...basic .40-size trainer with
- radio, engine, etc., will run you about $500.00 plus the time to build
- the kit. This ain't a cheap hobby. Nor is it really an infant science,
- as the sophistication of the modelers and manufacturers is very high.
-
- Also, R/C is very club-oriented, due to insurance and training requirements.
-
- What you MIGHT want to consider is finding a local R/C club and teaming
- your temetry interest with one of the experienced builders and flyers.
- That way, you wouldn't have to go through ages of practice to start
- on your focus of interest. Warning: you will get distracted by the
- urge to learn to fly. Second Warning: you will get distracted by the
- urge to learn to fly.
-
- Greg
-
- P.S.: Did I mention that you will get distracted by the urge to
- learn to fly?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 11 Dec 93 02:53:29 GMT
- From: cis.ohio-state.edu!mstar!n8emr!bulletin@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: VK2SG RTTY DX Notes, 10 December
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- ==============================================================
- | Automatic relayed from packet radio via |
- | N8EMR's Ham BBS, 614-895-2553 |
- ==============================================================
-
- SB DX @ ALLBBS $RTDX1210
- VK2SG RTTY DX Notes, 10 December
- VK2SG RTTY DX Notes for week ending 10 December 1993 (BID RTDX1210)
- Bandpass reports this week from the USA were light. Most of the
- action was reported from Central Europe.
-
- We anxiously await the announcement from the ARRL of the results of
- the vote by the DX Advisory Committee (DXAC) on the establishment of a
- DXCC RTTY (Digital) Honor Roll. This vote was taken during November.
-
- Our information this week came from 9X5LJ, I5FLN, the NJ0M Node of the
- Twin Cities DX Packet Cluster Network, SP5AA, WB2CJL, ZS5S, and W5KSI.
- Thanks to all for your help.
-
-
- Bandpass
-
- Friday 3
- 1258-14083 4L8A
- 1304-14086 RA2FB
-
- Saturday 4
- 0630-21073 J28BM ARQ
- 0630-21073 Z21HS ARQ
- 0812-14083 UA0SMF
- 0815-14083 UN7RX
- 1001-14085 YI1HS
- 1009-21085 4L8A QSL OZ1HPS
- 1228-14084 IB0R Ponza Island IOTA EU-45 QSL IW0BEI
- 1237-14087 RA3UN
- 1301-14089 EA6NB
- 1316-14089 LX1DA
- 1345-14084 4L8A
- 1410-14086 HI8BG
- 1432-14086 EA9UN
- 1437-21085 CP1FF
- 1456-14085 4X6UO QSL WB3CQN
- 1507-14089 RB4IUE
- 1507-14090 A45ZX
- 1613-21083 IS0CDS
- 1626-21088 ZS9A
- 1709-14080 SV2BBJ
- 1737-17084 UO5OC QSL I8YGZ
- 1738-14090 S92ZM
- 1740-14088 VQ9WL
- 1916-14085 VS600
- 2357-14085 ZP5FGS
-
- Sunday 5
- 0945-21084 UZ9CWA
- 1002-14084 C91AI QSL CT1DGZ
- 1308-14086 UR8L/UB5TAU QTH Kharkov
- 1315-14088 5B4VX
- 1334-14084 UN7RX
- 1336-14087 CT1AMK
- 1338-14091 SV1BMN
- 1341-21084 EA8ATE
- 1353-21086 LZ1MC
- 1402-21088 SV2BBJ
- 1403-21087 LX1DA
- 1419-14087 9H1ET
- 1424-14090 UR9/UB5TAU
- 1427-14083 S51GL
- 1437-14086 IB0R QSL I0BET
- 1445-21084 CT1ATC
- 1507-14086 UB4UCG
- 1534-14089 TK5ML
- 1600-21085 OM3CPC
- 1610-21085 9A3PL
- 1635-14087 GM0PKX
- 1757-14084 IB0R
- 1826-14087 PY2BDY
- 2350-14086 KL7MG
-
- Monday 6
- 0044-14082 LU1CIB
- 0250-14069 CP4PG
- 0551-14082 UN7RX
- 0745-14086 V73BN
- 0905-14081 HL9AX
- 0935-14083 IS0MPC
- 1042-14085 RA2FB
- 1307-14083 RW3PF
- 1315-14087 UO5OC
- 1317-14082 UA4YH
- 1433-14089 SV1BJV
- 1438-14086 EI4Z
- 1523-14090 EA6ABB
- 1537-14088 5B4VX
- 1540-14087 GW0HUT
- 1544-14085 GW4WWE
- 1716-14090 TL8NG
-
- Tuesday 7
- 0752-14083 LZ1KMS QRP
- 0803-14087 YI1HS
- 0806-14087 RB4IUE
- 0821-14087 EA6MQ
- 0827-14087 SV1BJV
- 0856-14086 EA6PZ
- 0905-14088 GM0NAZ
- 0912-21090 EC6AD
- 0917-21090 LZ1MC
- 0940-21090 TL8NG
- 1007-14077 9A3KG ARQ
- 1517-21070 J28JJ ARQ (Jean is formerly A92FG)
-
- Wednesday 8
- 0031-14086 S92ZM
- 0718-14083 UH8AAB
- 1331-14082 UO5OED
-
- Thursday 9
- No Reports
-
- Send your Bandpass and Notes of Interest for next week's bulletin to
- Luciano, I5FLN @ ZS5S.ZAF.AF or I5FLN @ 9X5LJ.#KGL.RWA.AF.
-
- 73 and Good Hunting DE Jules, W2JGR @ W2TKU.#SRQFL.FL.USA.NA
- /EX
- SP KT7H @ N7DUO.WA.USA.NA
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 15:34:08 GMT
- From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <1993Dec8.184205.20082@ll.mit.edu>, <1993Dec9.162128.12183@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <1993Dec9.220930.28797@ll.mit.edu>
- Reply-To : gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
- Subject : Re: hypochondriac scared of cancer!
-
- In article <1993Dec9.220930.28797@ll.mit.edu> wjc@ll.mit.edu (Bill Chiarchiaro) writes:
- >|> ...whole bunches of stuff deleted...
- >
- > The gain of a half-wave dipole relative to the isotropic radiator is
- >2.14 dB (I'm presenting this as a given --- I'll listen to
- >counterarguments).
-
- Free space, but a single dipole on a 70 foot metal tower probably doesn't
- emulate free space very closely. Getting into calculating the exact
- difference is probably a waste of effort. *Measuring* it is the only
- realistic way to know what the pattern looks like.
-
- > Now we differ by only 0.7dB! Certainly the difference is in the
- >right direction, given that you assumed the flux from the dipole is
- >evenly distributed over a cylindrical surface surrounding the dipole.
- >It is interesting that the resulting error in field strength is only
- >8 percent. A single half-wave dipole just isn't very directive, eh?
-
- Well we *knew* that. :-) The only serious nulls are off the ends and
- that's a small percentage of the total pattern, apparently about 8%
- since I deleted end effects completely in my simple model.
-
- Gary
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | I kill you, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | You kill me, | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | We're the Manson Family | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | -sorry Barney |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 13:56:15 GMT
- From: netcomsv!netcom.com!greg@decwrl.dec.com
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <mac.755206284@depot.cis.ksu.edu.cis.ksu.edu>, <gregCHo43F.9o4@netcom.com>, <1993Dec8.003950.10070@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
- Subject : Re: Scratchi, January, 1960
-
- In article <1993Dec8.003950.10070@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jmaynard@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
- >Political correctness rears its ugly head.
-
- If you have an intellectual argument, let's see it. On the other hand,
- the 'Political correctness' label is nothing but a label behind which
- those who are uncomfortable confronting the issues hide. It's the pat
- on the head to the assertive woman, and the 'be a good boy' to the
- uppity nigger.
-
- > That article was from 1960,
- >ferchrissakes!
-
- That's right. And it reflects an attitude which is repugnant to many of us
- today. 'The American Jew' is from the 1920's. Does that make it quotable
- today? (n.b. 'The American Jew' is a work by Henry Ford Sr. which is a
- bigoted and anti-Semitic volume. It is catching on in, of all places,
- Japan).
-
- >Anyone who gets offended by that article, much less thinks it
- >reflects current ham thinking, has too high an offensensitivity quotient.
-
- Have you ever heard the phrase 'opening old wounds?'
-
- Greg
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 15:11:20 GMT
- From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <thweatt.755217435@mustang18>, <1993Dec8.123356.6473@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <btobackCHrxJG.IFr@netcom.com>nc
- Reply-To : gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman)
- Subject : Re: ARRL BOOK???WHERE???
-
- In article <btobackCHrxJG.IFr@netcom.com> btoback@netcom.com (Bruce Toback) writes:
- >
- >Really, Gary, what would you have thought if back in 1962, someone handed
- >you a 1994 Handbook? Or the Spread Spectrum Sourcebook? Technology changes.
- >How do you go about building something from the 1962 Handbook when it specifies
- >a 6CW4 in the front end? Other than the construction projects, what
- >specifically was included in the 1962 Handbook that has been omitted from
- >the 1994 edition?
-
- Hmm. If I need a 6CW4 for a project, I reach right over here in this
- drawer and pull a new one out of the RCA packaging. You picked a bad
- example since I have a stockpile of these to support Ampex VR2000
- videotape machines. I may also have the world's largest supply of 6C10s.
- :-)
-
- And BTW the '62 volume does have a chapter on semiconductor devices and
- their physics. It doesn't cover ICs of course since they weren't yet
- available. But really, they're not much more than a block diagram
- abstraction of conventional circuitry.
-
- The 1962 Handbook has 624 numbered pages, plus index and advertising
- sections. I don't know how many pages my newest Handbook has since it
- re-numbers pages at each chapter break, an annoying bug IMHO. It also
- has a less than useful table of contents and index. It also seems to
- jumble up construction projects and theory instead of offering them in
- coherent sections. It seems to be attempting to be a shallow encyclopedia
- rather than a coherent guide to radio-electronics as it applies to amateur
- radio.
-
- It's true that there are new devices to be discussed in the newer
- Handbooks, though the devices used in the construction articles
- seem to be discontinued whenever I attempt to build one of the
- circuits. :-( However, the electronic theory sections in the older
- book are lucid, useful, and more accessable than those in the newer
- editions, again IMHO. Basic electronic theory hasn't changed since
- 1962 even if some of the particular devices implementing it have.
-
- I don't generally consider the Handbook as primarily a source of
- construction projects, though I'll point out that older editions
- had more ambitious projects. I keep a Handbook around primarily
- as a reference volume, and as a reference volume the newer books
- are less useful than the older ones. It reads more like a series
- of articles for QST than as a coherent volume. (Now if you want
- to compare the technical content and quality of the 1962 QST with
- today's issues, that's another argument we can get into.)
-
- The new Handbooks have great superficial breadth, but less depth
- in fundamental areas. Maybe that's inevitable, but I find them
- less useful than the older books, and I find myself turning more
- often to other references, such as the RSGB books, or professional
- Handbooks like _Reference Data for Radio Engineers_ and its ilk.
-
- The Spread Spectrum Sourcebook suffers from the same fate of appearing
- to read like a disconnected collection of magazine articles. On the
- other hand, DeMaw's books are coherently written, as are those by
- Walt Maxwell and Chris Bowick. They develop their subject matter in
- an orderly and concise manner. Of course the Handbook has many authors
- of varying ability, and that no doubt leads to it's magazine quality.
- Still I think a more heavy handed editor could help bring a bit more
- order and consistency to the volume. I realize that isn't an easy job,
- and that a particular editor may have a different vision of what the
- Handbook should be than I do.
-
- What I want out of the Handbook is a solid theory section that's easily
- accessed for reference, and some practical projects that can serve as
- examples of the techniques addressed. An example of where the current
- Handbook goes wrong IMHO is the rotor control project in the space
- communications section. While rotor control is something someone building
- a Earth terminal must consider, that project should have been in a chapter
- on control systems, a chapter that's missing from the book. I'd also like
- a through quick reference section of the appropriate charts, tables, formulae,
- and the like that a radio engineer needs frequently. The older Handbooks
- did a better job of meeting these objectives than the newer ones IMHO.
-
- Gary
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | I kill you, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | You kill me, | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | We're the Manson Family | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | -sorry Barney |
-
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